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Graham
Well said Donald. My brother Edward & myself (18 months apart) recall events in different lights after tempus fugit, so extra witnesses to some of them are very necessary for clarity. Cannot believe the clocks go back next weekend and that Christmas decorations were up in Matlock (Derbyshire) shops on 1st October!! Tickets to Malta booked for September 2013 so something to anticipate!
Oct. 21 
 
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Don Cox

Graham

Good luck with Malta. We went there about 5 years ago, it reminded me of a cross between Scrapheap Challenge and 1970s (or perhaps current, given the latest news reports ) Beruit. It wasn't my favourite place I have to say, even the museum with the Gladiator (Faith, Hope or Charity) was closed, and that was the bit I most wanted to see! Still, you may have been before and see it in a different light to me, or hopefully you will if it's your first visit. I'll stick to the Alps for preference, we came home via Exeter airport from Malta and even the trip up the M5 reminded me what a green and pleasant land we live in.

Don.

Oct. 21  (Edited Nov. 5)
 
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Steve Coffin
Hi Must say I can only echo Don's views about Malta, thought it was a cross between Portishead Docks and Beirut. Good job we do not all like the same! Cheers Steve
Oct. 23  (Edited Oct. 25)
 
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Rich Lanham

Yes, count me in. It would be a great shame to let the whole thing go. I'm very guilty of not contributing for a long while, but didn't think for a moment I'd be getting the Bass out again at my age. Now 2 bands to try and keep up with.
Oct. 26 
 
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Graham
Have been to Malta a few times since 1969! See it as a military historians dream. Have even written a small booklet about some weapons in the Grand Master's Palace Armoury. Good to see behind the scenes. Will miss the ancient British buses I gather (bloody Europe - H & S again!) but don't have to learn the lingo (mainly) and the sun certainly shines. 5 star hotel, hopefully some local grub & wine (or Cisk beer) and a few castles to clamber around. Bleached yes, interesting though and thankfully the hoards stick to Spain, France, Greece, Turkey etc. Not a fan of mountains Donald. Have flown over the Himalayas & taken the Rocky Mountaineer over the Rockies so not really anything different to see!! They also get damned cold! Lets face it the Swiss are so boring. Nothing has happened there since William Tell. Give me blue skies, warm sea, a glass or two (and of course some history!) Did you visit the 100ton gun at Fort Rinella? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAtS4MhckWc
Oct. 27  (Edited Oct. 27)
 
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Don Cox

Graham

On the outgoing flight to what I now know will be my one and only visit to Malta, I found myself sitting next to a lady who was a frequent visitor to the island. Her words were memorable, she said that we would either love it or hate it. You are obviously in the former category and I am in the latter. I would have guessed that you would be a frequent visitor, given your interest in military history. I also have an interest in the subject, but most of the things which light my fire have wings on and, preferably, large piston engines attached. As an almost lifelong wannabee engineer, I still marvel at some of the machinery that was created before they started fitting aircraft with hairdryers. That also goes, in varying degrees, for loads of other engineering triumphs. No, I didn’t visit the gun; I didn’t even know it was there to be honest, an impressive bit of hardware nonetheless. Rosalie and I have very different interests, so compromise is the order of the day and I don’t think she would have been too pleased to spend time clambering around a fort, even one as impressive as that. The climate in Malta is too hot for me, anything much more than a 70 degree English summer day is uncomfortable from my point of view. I think George V1 gave them the medal, not for resisting Axis attacks, but just for putting up with everyday life! As for the booze, whilst I’m not tee-total, I got out of the habit of drinking years ago when I was doing out of hours cover for B.T. so it doesn’t mean much to me.

Regarding the Alps, the trick with mountains is to get in amongst them, use cable cars, funiculars, rack railways or just plain walk, flying over them or riding along the valley floors doesn’t really do it. I came to realise in our early trips abroad that the lower the population density, and the prettier the scenery, the more I liked the country. I think top of my list so far is Norway, not Alpine I know, but very scenic, thinly populated and even the yokels spoke good English. I think the language thing is because of the TV, it’s not worth sub-titling or dubbing over English language material for just about 5 million people, as a result they almost appear to learn it subliminally. Switzerland is at least three countries in one, German, French and Italian, which one did you find boring? I think Interlaaken was my preferred choice, the railway trip to the Jungfraujoch, and the eventual emergence onto the Sphinx Observatory platform with views of the Monch, the Jungfrau and the Eiger as all part of the experience was pretty absorbing I thought. The engineering hardware of part-time and fulltime rack railways and the achievement of laying a track to over 11,000 feet above sea level is surely worthy of a mention too. Most of the track construction is over 100 years old.

We have also stayed in Montreaux too, not a patch on Interlaaken in my opinion, but trips to nearby Chamonix and Mont Blanc via the cable car were similarly impressive. And finally, we went to Locarno on a day trip from sunny Italy. Not much difference between the two countries there really, that part of Switzerland was very Italian.

Like Steve says, it’s a good job we don’t all like the same thing, otherwise Malta would be even more crowded than it already is.

Regards

Don

Oct. 30  (Edited Oct. 30)
 
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Graham
Ah ha! Donald I got a reaction. Who else will chip in? Just took the cable-car to the Heights of Abraham (Matlock Bath) in Derbyshire a couple of weeks back. Can see your point re Alps. Also took the chuffer to the top of Snowdon but have never climbed it. Little Solsbury is about my lot! We are just under 500 feet here in Biddestone so have a head start! Perhaps my first trip in an old Vanguard plane in 1969 was coloured by the businessman in the adjacent seat who kept plying me with whisky? Fell off the plane at Luqa (then an old RAF hangar) & took a few hours to note the smell of sewage & taste of salty water!! Mosquitoes were bad too. Used to burn joss sticks to keep them away. Still had a great holiday well within my £50 Travel Allowance (remember that?) The War Museum at Fort St. Elmo has 'Faith' if I recall. 'Hope' & 'Charity' long gone (a bit like our government?) Roof needed repairing in 2008 so perhaps it has collapsed since? Judy is well trained to trek over forts etc. She even bought me a new rifle for my birthday! On the way out in 1969 the pilot informed us that the Vanguard would drop at the end of the runway due to air temperature over the sea. He did not mention the wings bending!! My Dad spent time on HMS Tiger in Valetta. She had broken down again!! Judy likes Switzerland so perhaps I will compromise one day. (Now where is my list of Swiss arsenals? Ah! Ha! Thun for a start!)
Oct. 30  (Edited Oct. 30)
 
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Don Cox

Graham We are in grave danger of hogging virtually all of the capacity on this site. Do you think we have intimidated the rest, or are they just waiting to see what else we’ll fling at each other? I recall climbing Snowdon, alongside the railway, about 35 years ago when our black Labrador was about 18 months old, and tireless. He pulled Rosalie all of the way up and me all the way down and he was still raring to go at the end. We couldn’t let him off the lead because of the sheep. He was, and remains, our one and only dog.

We were in the Peak District earlier this year, our first real visit there. Not up to the Lake District for scenery or size, but it certainly has a certain charm about it. I wanted to visit the wreck site of “Over Exposed” (a B29 Super Fortress which didn’t make it over one of the peaks in 1948) but we didn’t get around to it and went to Chatsworth House instead.

Yes, I do remember the £50 travel allowance, part of “Uncle” Harold Wilson’s brave new economic experiment, if I remember correctly. At the time I cut out a newspaper cartoon and displayed it on the notice board of the exchange I found myself in charge of. It pictured two blokes, obviously ship wrecked, on a desert island and one holding a radio to his ear. The words beneath read: “And the last thing I heard was; “This doesn’t mean the pound in your pocket’s been devalued”. Then the batteries went dead!”

Anyway, I think I ought to start to treat you with deference which your retired Head Master status deserves, being as I am only a onetime hairy a**ed pole climber and wire stringer, and stop batting bricks in your direction. I also think we ought to let someone else have a go, anyone else out there love/hate Malta, mountains, dogs, Harold Wilson, or anything else for that matter ?

Regards

Don

Oct. 31  (Edited Oct. 31)
 
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Graham
Hi Donald, We are obviously not controversial (or interesting!!) enough! Now what can I say about tractors? Judy & myself did take a trip on the Churnet Valley railway in Derbyshire. The first time we had used a First Class carriage! Very cosy on a cold day and so different from the cigarette smoke filled compartments of yesteryear. Also walked miles along the Tissington Trail (once the Cromford & High Peak Railway) so a whiff of steam nostalgia all round. Anyone else been there? Graham
Nov. 8  (Edited Nov. 8)
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